Re: anon, the just now banned crazy person
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So that thread's been locked, but I should note that he still has another account on here, @Zander which I know because after he was banned on Arx for the first time, he sent some crazy DMs to me on here. Allow me to share with the rest of the class.
Sigh. Look. Apos. This is Jarel, Ex-Player. I understand the ban. But I'd like to appeal. However to appeal we both need to be brutally honest with each other. Meaning I'll tell you the truth of anything you ask. Seeing as you mentioned 'reputation in other games' I know for a fact none of the other muds have ever had a problem with me. However Haven player base such as Saoirse, Gianna? I can show you they are bullies spreading lies about me and encouraging to bully me over a non existent issue where Gianna's player accused me of 'stalking' and Saoirse's player used that as well. However I can prove to you these things were done because of my /racial/ heritage: hispanic
Also i'm using this medium because I couldn't find an admin email thing like in other muds. I sent one but I don't think it even got halfway as there was no answer.
To which I replied
bro. I said you had a problem in other games because I read the damn threads bitching about you myself, and I identified you from your own posing and writing style. Secondly, those players weren't ones that complained about you. Thirdly, the people that did had literally never created problems about anyone else. Fourth, jesus man, I understand you have issues but you have got to start accepting responsibility for this. All of staff found you difficult to deal with, I know it's hard but you just need to work on it, the problem isn't everyone else, just work on it and keep working on it
Now, I should note that when I got that message I was like, 'Okay so probably the PCs of Saoirse and Gianna had a run in with this dude and never bothered to complain about him, as frequently happens with creepy fuckers'. I should note, for reference, this is wrong and the truth was waaaaay crazier. When I shared this with them as a follow up, neither had ever HEARD of the guy. Had zero interactions in game. He was complaining about them because their names happened to match characters on other games he had problems with. That's how bad his separation was. Anyways, he did reply in another DM to me.
Sigh. Apos. I play a LOT of text games and -only- in Haven do I have issues. So you read threads bitching about me, I'm not quite sure where these threads are, so forgive me if I don't quite understand that part. I been roleplaying in games such as: Armageddon, Sindome, Cybersphere, Legends of the Jedi, Achaea and I might be missing some. In none of them I have an issue aside from how I have been treated on Haven. I never had issues. I did however sought out to know if I had actually done wrong in terms of power posing and such. Clara's player confirmed it. And I realized I was in the wrong and had no intention to make that same mistake again. You also mention staff found me difficult. Which is a bit confusing, considering I didn't really bug staff aside from skill levels because I didn't understand the skill system. And I didn't understand the magic system. That was about it.
He's mentioning because in that catastrophically massive haven thread, there's a dozen or so posts talking about what a creepy motherfucker he is, and arguably the most difficult person to deal with in a game. Anyways. I never reply to him because what's the point, and fast forward a bit till he makes a painfully obvious alt and by spamming IPs and hoping we don't actually ban an entirely ISP's range just to choke him out and go to whitelist only, and he briefly is back on someone else. I again get DMs after he's banned.
All right. Hellfrog pretty much already stated she is 99.9% sure John is Jarel. So seeing as I'm already a 'criminal' I suppose I don't need to attempt anything and get messed up by Themo and you. Coders after all. You have my word I won't bother anyone again. I just wish you'd given me an opportunity before killing me off. Did I even break any of staff's golden rules? Because I didn't even bother with relationships. The only one had was FTB'd. Look, I get it. You want to protect your game. I understand that. But you should have at -least- tried to give me the benefit of the doubt. Reading from the other bans they seem to have gotten more chances then me.
These felt racists but whatever. I never had any malicious intentions. But all right. You guys just figured its Jarel! That dude was terrible! But I'm willing to admit my mistake. My issue is this latest ban slam felt very racist as Hellfrog really opened my eyes:
Hey 99.9% sure this was Jarel so bye again, please don't return, Vaya Con Leche
Damn adding a spanish insult as well? Didn't think you guys stooped that low. But its cool. Whatever. You guys won. I never even wanted to be a problem to anyone. I just wanted to prove that I'm not what people think but guess I'm out of my league... after all I'm not really of American culture. Everything I said about how great the game is was true. Congrats man. Blessed be by God. Oh and for the record: I was willing to accept my mistakes and try being better. I tried being something better. Didn't work. Maybe it's a sign: text rp is not for me. shrugs I would have admitted to any fault and tried to work
Oh and I get it. I do. You want to defend your work from people. But I would have shown you, that you made me bend my knee and that I didn't feel like breaking rules. John was removed just because 99.9% is Jarel. And what is the part that hurts the most: you gave me a chance and trusted me with your secrets. And I stayed quiet. I didn't use the character to do stupid sfuff... I never intended to be a rule breaker. I wanted to do things right. All I ever wanted was your help. And to respect your game. I'll still give it high reviews. Have fun, Apostate. Hope your game Mush is everything you'd wanted!
Like, I'm reluctant to ever share shit like this because it feels like punching down. The guy obviously has issues. But there is pretty much no case when him being on a game will not make it worse, and he is creepy and uncomfortable.
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That is just... gragh. Ugh. I'm sorry.
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I play a LOT of text games and -only- in Haven do I have issues. So you read threads bitching about me, I'm not quite sure where these threads are, so forgive me if I don't quite understand that part. I been roleplaying in games such as: Armageddon, Sindome, Cybersphere, Legends of the Jedi, Achaea and I might be missing some. In none of them I have an issue aside from how I have been treated on Haven. I never had issues.
This is honestly scary. This just means he stumbled across people who accept his shit or are too scared/meek to protest it, or don't report it, or it gets reported and nobody does anything about it.
This sort of person doesn't just misbehave like this on one game, they just get away with it for a long time.
Thrace is not the -most- difficult person on Haven to deal with. Haven Alumni include...
Ragegirl - constantly accusing people of not being IC and declaring entire scenes or story arcs retconned and refuses to acknowledge them until she suicides (like RPs suicide) or is killed off.
Azazello - Gaslighting, lying, meta competition resulting in attempted character deaths or harassment to gain a 'win'. Not as irrationally unstable but still a disruptive influence to any RP game he is on because he goes next level to win and creeps hard.
RRK - Reroll Kid! He was a little whacky (not as much as some others) but the issues was immediately rerolling characters which found any conflict what so ever IC or OOC and then coming back with the same generic IC knowledge. Often times he would also creep on the ladies and various iterations of characters would chase after one or two.
I am fairly positive that given Arx's success and the size of the game that the bulk of the genres worst players have come through or currently play on the game. It's the price of success in a niche where older games sometimes fold especially on the MUD side where several older RPIs have crumbled or begun to bleed players into MUD/MUSH hybrids or straight into MUSHes.
EDIT - Everyone listed is completely lacking in self awareness or is just some kind of soulless abuser that is to self centered to care that they know they're a shit person.
....I am torn between staring in fascinated horror at the trainwreck and a take-away of "Cool, cool. I definitely just moved, like, eight spaces up on the 'Not the Bat-Shittiest Player Apos Has Dealt With' list."
He even managed to pull the race card at the end there out of the blue. Professional wolf in sheep's clothing, God damn.
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Here's a lovely DM I got from @masterchief, whose account was made this morning after the ban, was named Raven at the time he sent this, and is almost certainly one of the most blatant sockpuppets I have ever seen:
While I honestly don't give a damn about Thrace/Issac/Thrissac or whatever he uses, I do know he had his account removed from Haven, meaning typing Thrace is completely eliminated. And someone else was accused of being him. I believe he was accused to be a certain player in Black Field. Who turns out is not him. Yes i have helped him get better. Yes he can be comedically thirsty but in character. I never seen him do otherwise. He is also a mental patient crippled with PTSD, how do i know? I challnged him to prove it and he sent the info. Thus I know he isn't as terrible. The doxxing though made me go el oh el, because he has trouble letting things go and someone framed him. Aside from that I generally don't care for him. He has proven he has actually changed. Just my two cents. He showed me the thread I told him he was stupid. No one needed that. And even more stupid for letting himself be egged easily by Kestrel. But then again, Kestrel pissess of a lot of people. Anyhow. That's it from my side of things.
This is why I stick to playing just Cybersphere, where even he was doing a ton better. shrugs Not my fault he is a dumbass.
Today was an escalation of his crazy, but this guy's crazy is nothing new. He's a consistent creeper with serious boundary issues, and one of the only people with whom my patience has actually run out.
I feel like I missed something truly special by sleeping an hour later this morning :(
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I laughed so hard.
On the off chance someone is crazy enough to read @Selira's post and try to give the dude benefit of the doubt, Raven is one of his go-to handles. I'm surprised he caught himself on that, tbh.
Issac, you are seriously unwell and really need to ask someone in your life to get you help. You've claimed to be married with children so many times. If that's true, consider about what your wife and kids would think of the shit you pulled last night.
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@oldfrightful Generally, when someone references kids etc on channels the way he did and then shuts down whenever someone else starts talking about theirs, I assume they are just bullshitting about that. It's totally a move in the weirdo creep handbook.
@jeshin I remeber reroll kid. I used to murderize them in Sindome XD
@scar Yeah, I'm not optimistic about him.
@selira dear god
I just... Why? Why even try something so painfully obvious? I don't get it.