Good or New Movies Review
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After having the release date pushed to next year, last month, new rumors are going around that Disney may cancel the New Mutants theatrical release entirely and stream it as an exclusive on Disney+.
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@Jaded Yes, please. Let it die mercifully. Fox needs to just give up already and let Marvel/Disney move forward with it. If they can do with X-Men what they did with the Avengers, that would be amazing. Not likely, but I can still dream.
And yeah, I've heard really bad stuff about Dark Phoenix. Really bad stuff. I won't see it until it goes to video.
@Warma-Sheen You know what got me? I was reading an interview by the Dark Phoenix producers where they were breaking down why they believe the movie didn't do well.
They mentioned a bunch of reasons; timing (Alita: Battle Angel stole its original release spot on the calendar), budget, lack of focus on what groups it focused on...
Man, these people have had their own heads up their asses even before Batman and Robin. The very idea that a film might not do well at the box office because it's not good doesn't seem to mean anything, so they try to barf jargon all over their own reasoning.
Like... that's the difference between Endgame which crushed it and Superman vs Batman which did not; same genre, similar budgets, buildup from earlier films, well known characters... but one was really good and the other was not.
Dark Phoenix is no Logan. It won't succeed no matter when you put its release on a calendar. If you want it to do better you should make a better movie out of it, you guys.
Ganymede last edited by
If you want it to do better you should make a better movie out of it, you guys.
Importantly, the Dark Phoenix saga is one of the most cherished X-Men story line. Thinking that you can reduce it to a single movie is idiotic to the point of nonsense.
There's also the fact that the movie that came before it was not great either.
The reboot had a strong start and then faltered badly. Apocalypse just was not good. So people had very little interest in this installment. They went from being strong to......falling flat.
Which happens. Own it.
***=What bugs me is after***click to show
Basically whatever magic the MCU performed that allowed them to have 10+ characters share the plot without most of them having no impact or agency other than simply firing off their powers in fight scenes was completely missing here. If I hadn't read the comics I wouldn't have given a shit about Cyclops and the rest of them because who are they? Why should I?
I thought Sophie Turner did a pretty good job though. The movie was crap but it wasn't on her.
Because Marvel has some brilliant writers. I had to watch Civil War twice because the second time I had to just sit and mentally construct the script as I watched because it was just so good.
These other movies (Apocalypse, Justice League, etc) seem to sort of phone in the script and lean into CGI and the popularity of superhero movies to carry them along.
Which is a fucking shame on WB btw because the DC animated movies are awesome.
Jennkryst last edited by
@Auspice It's almost like Marvel learned from their mistakes, but despite how publicly said mistakes were, others refused to take the lesson to heart.
Dark Phoenix is to the actual comic what Constantine is to Hellblazer. (I mean the Keanu Reeves movie.) It's entertaining if you go in with low expectations and the understanding that it is not anywhere near the comic. I don't feel I wasted my money. But it's NOT the Dark Phoenix Saga we all want.
***=Things I Liked About Dark Phoenix***click to show
***=Things I Did Not Like About Dark Phoenix***click to show
Rocketman is solid gold.
Child's play is also excellent, assuming you're not married to the original mythology.
I unabashedly love the new Spider-Man.
I'm not sure I could even detail everything I loved. I need to see it a second time (she says while waiting for the after credits scene).